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Excellent explanation, however, technically it does not constitute an "odd spot." Rather, it represents a "100% acceptable and evident position" as it brings benefits to all stakeholders, from accounting to the CEO. Moreover, it is noteworthy that investing in services or leasing arrangements increases expenditure, resulting in reduced tax liabilities due to lower reported profits. Compounding this, the prevailing high turnover rate among CEOs diminishes incentives for making significant long-term investments.

In certain instances, there is also plain corruption. This occurs when a supplier offering services such as computer and server leasing or software, as well as company car rentals, is owned by a friend or family member of a C-level executive.

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Some might say that.

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“This is an isolated, ‘one-of-a-kind occurrence’ that has never before occurred with any of Google Cloud’s clients globally. This should not have happened.

I don't believe this is what that rare, what I believe is that this was the fist time it happened to a company with enough exposure to actually have in impact and reach the media.

Either way Google's image won't ever recover from this and they just lost what small credibility they had on the cloud space and won't be even considered again by any institution in the financial market - you know the people with the big money - and there's no coming back from this.

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You will never get the same font rendering on Linux as on Windows as Windows font rendering (ClearType) is very strange, complicated and covered by patents.

Font rendering is also kind of a subjective thing. To anyone who is used macOS, windows font rendering looks wrong as well. Apple's font rendering renders fonts much closer to how they would look printed out. Windows tries to increase readability by reducing blurriness and aligning everything perfectly with pixels, but it does this at the expense of accuracy.

Linux's font rendering tends to be a bit behind, but is likely to be more similar to macOS than to Windows rendering as time goes forward. The fonts themselves are often made available by Microsoft for using on different systems, it's just the rendering that is different.

For me, on my screens just by installing Segoe UI and tweaking the hinting / antialiasing under GNOME settings makes it really close to what Windows delivers. The default Ubuntu font, Cantarell and Sans don't seem to be very good fonts for a great rendering experience.

The following links may be of interest to you:

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Well... Poettering will eventually work his way up to browser engines and then we'll get something efficient... Here's the announcement:

"There's a new component in systemd, called "engined". Or actually, it's not a new component, it's actually the long existing "WebKit" engine now done properly. The engine is also a lot more fun to use than "WebKit" or "Blink" because you can finally have hundreds of tabs open in your browser without running out of RAM.

Coming soon in Coming for systemd 981.

Is anyone using VMware under a Wayland host?

I've been using VMware Player (free version) for a while now and it's been working fine. Recently I switched to Wayland and VMware's grab input behavior broke. The guest gets most keys correctly but Alt and Super are intercepted by the host. Clicking on the vm also gives me a remote desktop popup on the host prompting to allow...

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I've a very bad experience with GNOME boxes, both VMware and VirtualBox seem to outperform the thing and work better (drag and drop and resolution scaling, actual GPU acceleration).

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+1 here, intel on laptop.

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"GNOME Foundation To Focus On Fundraising After Years Running A Deficit"

So... If I throw half a million at them I'll get native desktop icons back?

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You know, they were too busy wasting money on reinventing the wheel and coming up with "a vision" to be able to sort their budget.

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😂 😂 😂 ...

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Desktop icons were removed because they’re (at least in the devs’ opinions), a poor solution.

They were removed because they were never able to make them working properly. It was always an hack and had multiple issues. ANY other OS and DE has desktop icons...

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and there are plenty of extensions to add them back if you (for some ungodly reason) want them

All the extensions are plagued by the same issue they had before. Drag and drop from apps never working properly, the icon grid behaves incorrectly sometimes and other cosmetic glitches.

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It was always an unfinished project because no one gave a flying

No, I didn't misunderstood, I know it was yet another GNOME unfinished project. Both the native thing and the extensions always had/have the same problems - drag and drop from apps never working properly, the icon grid behaves incorrectly sometimes and other cosmetic glitches.

for anything that was of zero value.

Now this is the thing, desktop icons are basic DE functionality and even Apple - the guys that actually know how to design anything - agree they should be there... at least with an option to turn them ON/OFF. The removal of desktop icons was simply the "GNOME vision" being used as an excuse not the fix something that was hard to fix.

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You clearly never used those extensions.

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-- commented a couple of laughing faces in all good spirits // post removed "rule 2".

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/5e561fa4-f9df-47d5-bfab-08d367bdaea5.png

lol

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The funny thing is that you can't prove me wrong there, apparently not even provide valid arguments, just add a pile of ramblings and insults.

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And right now millions of people do and I don’t see widespread issues.

It's not a widespread issue, it's something with the desktop icon extensions and the original implementation. In both cases the drag and drop from/to apps never worked fine.

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Yet, we still don't have a proper way to mirror the parts (or the entire) repository and/or have useful offline archives of flatpaks for certain cases.

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While I share your views about being amateur hours we've been seeing an increase in usage and releases on it. At this rate flatpak/flathub will become the defacto way of getting desktop software for Linux and it does solve a lot of annoyances and makes things more secure however it lacks features.

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... that can be said from apt repositories. But... they're made in a way you can mirror the entire thing offline.

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If you want stability use the latest Debian. The point of those LTS kernels is more and more supporting IoT and other devices you can't simply upgrade, but you want to keep secure... regular use cases can just usa a stable disto like Debian and you'll never notice any kernel related issues.

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Maybe the issue was that you were using it to access some kind of Microsoft service and their improper IMAP implementation.

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Not a single screenshot was provided.

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^ Boils down to not being hostage to a single provider and whatever it offers.

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Only annoying thing is not supporting ProtonMail out of the box.

That's Protons fault, they're the ones that decided to ignore all the open and standard e-mail, contacts and calendar protocols out there and built their custom-everything stack to keep you vendor-locked into their interfaces.

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just more difficult to connect when the provider wants to keep things secure.

Proton could've just implemented everything they did with IMAP/SMTP on Thunderbird + OpenPGP with the same level of security, but they decided not to. Yes, their solution is convenient but also close to everything else.

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NixOS is just another attempt at changing the way fundamental things are done so one day they can introduce some orchestration / repository / xyz payed solution. Yet another step in the commoditization of software development.

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I don't yet... but a few months ago nobody believed they could take on a sponsorship from Anduril. Nor that they would enact a somewhat vague policy guide pushing the ideia that the community is all that matters and that all further important decisions will be community driven without actually specifically defining "who" is the community.

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It apparently happens with other email sources as well

I deal with a lot of mailboxes and a ton of people using Thunderbird with ridiculous amounts of emails like 50-100GB accounts and even on the few times I saw Thunderbird failing it wasn't loosing anything.

I don't trust Owl very much, the good news is that we will soon get an official and decent support for Exchange. :)

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And also because realistically there's no need for any other distro. :P

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I started "experiencing input delay / lag in GNOME" since I first used it. It's normal, every thing you click or type requires a 2s animation to show up, usually rendered with CSS themes. lol

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Gnome is astonishingly and notoriously stable for being a modern DE

Yes, and it also uses web technologies to render themes and has zero sense of usability.

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My i7-6800K disagrees with you. :P

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Could I just ask what your point is here? I’m refuting the baseless assertion that Gnome is an extremely buggy DE.

C'mon I never said it was buggy, I just said it was slow. Every other DE typically launches applications faster than GNOME. It also forces pointless animations down people's throat, and no that toggle under settings doesn't remove all animations.

If you don’t like the workflow then fair enough,

It's not about the workflow, GNOME has the potential to be the one and only DE that actually makes it so big companies start developing proprietary applications for Linux without the constant fear of the "floor shifting bellow their feet" making it pointless to develop for Linux. Unfortunately GNOME insists on reinventing the wheel about every two years in the quest for their vision... and we get a perpetually half made DE out of that. The desktop is more than tested and everyone already tried all possible iterations of it, just get over it and so something useful with your funding.

What's the point is in having a well funded team when you want to change network settings and you've to go through three different kinds of UIs and applications all of them with their own particular style? Not even Windows is that bad - at least the old-style Control Panel has all the settings (including very advanced ones) that Linux never managed to get into a SINGLE and CONSISTENT UI. The same applies for a lot of other cases.

GNOME design is mostly okay (from a UI standpoint) but very bad from an UX one. It hides things from you (including the decision of removing desktop icons that could've been simply a toggle like in macOS) and proceeds to work against you by blocking your workflow/actions with graphic animations instead of getting to the results.

To be fair there are other things in GNOME that are just pure crap and application icons are one of them. What Android and iOS (mostly this one) do is have a set of guidelines for application icons so things looks more or less uniform. Android allows for more deviation while iOS doesn't really care it will apply a mask over your icon either way. In GOME, in multiple menus, you get icons larger than others, backgrounds on some and others barely visible. GNOME never tires to get anything uniform and leaves that to themes that will also always fail because they won't have icons for all applications in the world.

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Mostly GNOME and Xfce depending on the circumstance. KDE is decent and fast but the design is very bad, they've zero sense of proportions and spacing around elements.

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If this is true, there is something wrong with your system.

No there isn't. This is a thing I've noticed in all GNOME systems, mine or not. What is happening is that you, like many other people, like to watch an animation when you click on something and I like desktop environments that just get shit down and don't get in my way.

Obviously that 2s was an exaggeration, but still it isn't as quick as KDE or Xfce when moving around due to its animations. Even Windows is significantly faster at launching things, minimizing and maximizing windows. macOS adds more animations than GNOME in some things, but it usually doesn't get in the way on the essential things.

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Ahahahaha

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There’s not any discernable delay in typing

Typing is fine, just minimize a window on GNOME and then to the same on Xfce and you'll see the difference. Xfce = window instantly gone, no special effects. GNOME random minimize / fade animation.

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So am I to understand that your complaint about Gnome has changed from “I have severe performance issues and input lag, even using a desktop i7” to “minimising has a 0.2 second animation, just as practically every other UX has, and rather than just turn it off

No it hasn't. My complaints about GNOME have expanded a bit, just that. The UI is definitely slower than let's say Xfce and to make things even worse adds pointless animations.

and rather than just turn it off

That's the issue, you can't turn off ALL Gnome animations, there's a toggle on settings that reduces about 90% of the nonsense but you'll still get some animations.

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People installing proprietary software.

You are aware that you never got Adobe / MS Office / Autodesk for Linux because Linux is very bad when it comes to supporting developers aren't you? Unlike all other platforms out there you've to deal with multiple DE that are ever changing and half baked. You also have to deal with the lack of proper documentation into APIs and frameworks to make developer's lives easier.

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No, but we both know it is a big chunk. It works, and it is mostly fine, but it is certainly slower than Xfce and adds more pain with animations.

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Just because a slight delay doesn't bother you it doesn't mean it isn't there. The first times I used GNOME I actually was convinced it was some issue with my computer / setup. After countless installations on different distros and also dealing with it at work and friend's computers I came to the conclusion that is it slower than Xfce and most likely KDE. There's no way around it.

To be fair, as you said in another comment I don't believe this is CPU bound at all, nor GPU. Multiple machines some Intel with iGPUs others with discrete GPUs, others with AMD, all the same behavior. I'm way more inclined to believe this is an I/O issue above all, GNOME needs to read and load a lot more stuff than Xfce to render any window thus it will be slower.

Anyways, I never experienced this much, but if you google around people that are using older machines say that GNOME is always the slowest thing on those machines. Others such as Xfce they report it as performing better, so if on an old machine the slowdown once using GNOME is noticeable by almost everyone it means it does indeed use more resources. You can throw an i9 to at the issue but the fact is that it will always use more resources no matter of the hardware you have.

In my case I tend to be particular sensible to small delays than you or others but it's there and old machines prove it. It's not that I can't use Gnome ever or it provides the worst desktop experience ever, no, it works fine and can be productive but I notice the delays.

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Can you try Xfce and report back?

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No, the animations aren't running slower on my hardware than in any other hardware... the issue is that there are animations and those take time to complete.

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However, it isn’t this magical desktop and if your computer is bound up by a drawing text and icons on the display then Xfce4 is not going to help you. KDE and Gnome are both a little ram heavy but that’s because they are much bigger desktops.

Exactly, they are bigger thus require more resources and will run slow on older hardware as many people complain. I personally don't feel that GNOME is very noticeable slower but, I do believe there's an extra very short delay when windows are to be drawn, on my main desktop because of it's larger size but due to the fact that everything is forcefully animated. The DE kinda gets in my way with those animations instead of just click > apear like Xfce does.

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Cmon... how can they not? An animation always takes time, 0.1s is time. As described here there's even an extension that can speed up animations.

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Nice one. Maybe e can make a website "whatwouldlinussay.com"?

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